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Village Board Provides Facts & Information Regarding the Pole Issue Along the Third Track

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  • We have been advised in writing by both the MTA/LIRR and the Long Island Power Authority that the poles were constructed and put in place by the contractors for the MTA/LIRR as part of the Third Track Project and are, when they are placed in the ground, the property of the MTA/LIRR and its contractors. That is their legal position.

    It is our understanding that at some point in the future these poles, like everywhere along LIRR property, do get transferred in ownership and responsibility for maintenance to the prevailing utility on the pole - in this case LIPA/PSEG. But at the moment of construction - they belong to the MTA/LIRR. For example, if a pole snapped in half during its placement, the cost would be borne by the MTA/LIRR and its contractors, not LIPA or PSEG.

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  • As has been expressly stated by MTA/LIRR and by the Third Track Committee, the Village was not asked for permission beforehand. It is the legal position of the MTA/LIRR that they were not required to ask the Village to place the poles where they are or to get the Village's approval to use 60-foot or 90-foot or 120-foot high poles. It has stated in writing to us that although the Village was entitled to be notified of the design change to move poles to the south side of the tracks, "Village approval [of the relocation of the utility poles] is not required" because they are located within a LIRR right-of-way.

    The Village is aware that two of the poles west of Nassau Boulevard encroach on Village land by about 7-10 inches.

    The Village has virtually no permitting regulatory authority over the MTA/LIRR. MTA/LIRR land and projects, like most projects on school property and Nassau County government property, are not generally subject to our building codes or other Village law or regulation. We do not inspect or issue permits for this type of Third Track work.

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  • New York Public Authorities Law ("PAL") § 1020-ii entitled, "Public notice before approval of utility transmission facilities," is a relatively new law that was signed by Governor Cuomo on December 28, 2018. The law falls under Title 1-a of Chapter 43-a of the Public Authorities Law, known as the "Long Island power authority act." PAL § 1020. As such, the notice requirements apply directly to LIPA, not the MTA/LIRR. Notice, if applicable, is required to be given to local governments and residents only within 500 feet of the proposed action. As stated above, the MTA/LIRR has expressly stated, and so has LIPA, that the poles are the property of the MTA/LIRR.

    The law does not include any provisions stating what damages or penalties should be imposed or what actions a court is authorized to take for violations of the law. There is nothing in the law that states that violations of the law result in removal of utility poles.

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  • Some residents have made allegations that our Village Administrator, Ralph Suozzi, who also serves as Chairman of the LIPA Board of Directors, has a conflict of interest. To be perfectly clear, the Third Track Project and this pole issue was solely an MTA/LIRR initiative. Mr. Suozzi had no role or any discussions regarding the Third Track project or any component of it either in his role as Village Administrator or as Chairman of the LIPA Board.

    Mr. Suozzi has been the Village Administrator for six years. He was Non-Executive Chairman of the Board of LIPA when we hired him and continues to be its Chairman. The Village was well aware of his position as Non-Executive Chairman.

    According to Black's Law Dictionary, a conflict of interest is defined as, "A term used in connection with public officials and fiduciaries and their relationship to matters of private interest or gain to them."

    The position of LIPA Chairman is not a paid position - he serves without compensation. The position of Chairman has no operational powers. He does not make operational decisions. Furthermore, LIPA does not operate the electric power utility system on Long Island. As a result of the LIPA Reform Act of 2013, LIPA contracts with PSEG Long Island, a subsidiary of Public Service Enterprise Group Incorporated, one of the nation's largest electric utilities, to operate LIPA's electric system.

    Mr. Suozzi has no authority or role with PSEG Long Island. He has never received nor does he receive any personal gain from the placement of poles along the Third Track in Garden City - or anywhere else. Again, Mr. Suozzi never participated in any of the Village's discussions with the MTA/LIRR or its contractors.

    As has been confirmed in writing by both LIPA and the MTA/LIRR, the selection of the contractor, design, construction and outreach for the Third Track Project, including the poles, were within the sole discretion of the MTA/LIRR. Additionally, the Third Track Project, including the poles, is entirely funded by the MTA/LIRR.

    Neither PSEG Long Island nor LIPA told MTA/LIRR where to locate the poles or had any discretion in telling MTA/LIRR where to place the poles. Save for two poles, which are approximately 7 inches on Village property, the poles are located entirely on MTA/LIRR land. The poles replace existing power poles in the area. There were always electric utility poles along the tracks. The sole role of PSEG Long Island - not LIPA, was to advise MTA/LIRR of the industry-wide standards to which new poles are to be built - including height and spacing - which are necessary and were adopted to withstand weather issues and to accommodate various utilities (not only electricity) which run lines on poles such as those in question, including those facilities of the MTA/LIRR. All standards are required under state and federal law and industry standards.

    As part of this argument, we have also heard that LIPA benefits from the placement of poles above ground instead of burying the utility lines, again somehow resulting in a conflict of interest for Mr. Suozzi. LIPA operates as a not-for profit entity under New York State law, so it does not make money (or saved money) - as some have tried to assert - from the placement of poles in lieu of burying them underground, and again, this was not a LIPA project but is instead an MTA/LIRR project.

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  • The Third Track Committee with the advice of the heads of our Parks Department and Building Department have been negotiating and pushing the MTA/LIRR and its contractors to significantly enhance the original landscaping plan.

    Under the original plan for the Third Track project, the MTA/LIRR made only minimal commitments to replace vegetation, trees and the like. As the project was a widening of the footprint for the tracks without taking of any additional land, MTA/LIRR never could commit to replace all growth that had occurred over decades within its property lines. It did commit to replace vegetation and trees that were removed outside of its property line, but only to a limited size.

    Through the work of the Village Board of Trustees, we were able to get additional commitments in a Memorandum of Understanding that the Village would be entitled to apply for and receive up to $2.5 million through the Community Fund under the Third Track Project, and other commitments to enhance landscaping, far in excess of the requirements under the actual project plans. To date, we have applied to use at least $800,000 of such funds to primarily enhance landscaping along the Main Line corridor.

    We have also received commitments from the MTA/LIRR and the contractors for even more trees and shrubs and hedges and have been working for months to finalize a definitive and binding landscaping plan that is being paid for solely by the contractors; it is important to note that this expenditure does not include reduce the money available to us from the Community Funds. Of the many issues that we are pressing is that larger trees and shrubs be planted - especially in light of the placement of the large poles. For example, and just as one example, we are pushing them to plant many trees in the 30-foot size. You may note that when the Village replaces trees, we plant trees about 12 feet high.

    Village Board Provides Facts & Information Regarding the Pole Issue Along the Third Track
  • The Board and the Committee have been and continue to take steps to try to protect our Village. All of us live here too, several near the Main Line. The Board has retained special counsel, the nationally renowned environmental law firm of Beveridge and Diamond to assist us in exploring and understanding our rights, and asserting them against the MTA/LIRR. We will continue to push the MTA/LIRR and its contractors to be respectful of the Village, and to work with us to mitigate the impact of the project and the poles in particular, on the Village and our residents.

    We look forward to discussing these and any other aspect of the project with fellow residents as well as with our local representatives. It is only when we have a discussion based on facts and not emotions that we will be able to do what is best for our Village as a whole.

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St. Paul's Building FAQs

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  • Robert Smith from Hawkins Delafield and Wood LLP responded at the March 8 Town Hall that the answer to this question is YES. The Constitutional requirement is that the Village issue its debt, pay its debt from real property taxes or any other available sources, including donations. You would factor that into the financial plan. You would authorize the amount of debt that you thought you needed to accomplish the project, and use any other source of funds that may be donated. This is also true with an LDC. There’s no circumstances under which the donated funds could not be contributed to pay part of the cost of the project.

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  • According to Richard Tortora, president of Capital Markets Advisors, LLC (the Village’s fiscal advisor), with a financing of this size with a long construction period, it’s often the case that you just don’t go right into the bond market and issue one set of bonds and are done. Very often, you’d issue a set of short-term bond anticipation notes (BANs) with a typical term of 12 months.  Maybe you would do that for the soft cost. Maybe it’s $3, $5, $10 million. Then when those notes come down, depending on where you are in the construction process, you might issue another set of notes, add new money to it. When those notes come due, you have to start paying back the debt. At that point, depending on market conditions, you could go into the bond market and lock it up in fixed rate bonds or if we think interest rates are on their way down, maybe we’d stay a note for another year. You can stay in notes for as long as five years. In this scenario, if indeed there’s a public campaign to raise funds, any funds that are raised you could use to pay down those notes so that you’re ultimately going to bonds with a much smaller PAR amount to reduce your interest expense for the life of the loan.

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  • According to Robert Smith from Hawkins Delafield and Wood LLP, “I suppose none, but the only ask to Albany would be a discreet amendment to the local finance law. I think there are either 109 or 110 different periods of probable usefulness listed in the law right now. One is for sidewalks, one is for roads, one is for buildings, one is for everything you can think of and that’s the legislative intent too. It would cover every type of project there is. The task would be to take a subdivision 11A, 12A which says ‘a period of probable usefulness for a building with some wood in it is 15 years.’ We’d just put an asterisk after that and say except in the event, except in this case the St. Paul’s project in Garden City the period of probable usefulness shall be 30 years. That’s the only legislative task, and that’s the only way that the law would be changed. I don’t think there might be any other impact in terms of something in return or anything like that. Now it’s possible legislators might say however and I have seen this and might not apply in this case but in similar circumstances the caveats thrown in, ‘however, the amount of debt issued shall not exceed X number of dollars.’ In this case it would be 70 or 80 or 90 or whatever you think it should be. That’s possible though, that question would come up or something like that. Something that I think probably just needs to be fleshed out.”

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  • Richard Tortora, president of Capital Markets Advisors, LLC (the Village’s fiscal advisor), had an optimistic view of requesting the 30-year finance and debt. “In my experience – and Bob probably has more experience in this than I do,  I think you would get it. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the State Legislature, once they hear the history, to say OK  in this instance. It’s a big expense but it’s a relatively small Village of like 7,200 households. I think you would get it,” he said, before turning to Robert Smith of Hawkins Delafield and Wood LLP, and checking, “Do you concur with that?”

    According to Mr. Smith, there’s a case to be made on several levels. “The importance of this building to the community has been demonstrated over the last 30 plus years. The very large dollar amount, and the small number of parcels (properties) in the Village. So I think it’s a good case to be made,” he said.

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  • An intended use will be ascertained from resident input on the completed and returned St. Paul’s survey. It ranges the gamut from art studios and dance space to potentially indoor tracks or swimming pools.

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  • The percent increase in real estate taxes related to capital improvements for each homeowner will depend on the ultimate project and work to be done. The chart in the St. Paul's survey gives an estimate based on the market value of a home and the cost of each potential project. In addition, there will be operating costs which may impact resident real estate taxes. Those are not included at this time since they are dependent upon the programming and offerings selected.

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  • The Village continues to receive a Aaa rating from Moody’s and is one of the few municipalities on Long Island with that rating. They state the credit strengths of the Village are “high resident incomes and full value per capita, strong reserves and liquidity, and conservative fiscal management.” They use Economy, Financial Performance (available fund balance and liquidity ratios), and Leverage (long-term liabilities and fixed costs ratios) as some of the metrics used in their rating calculation methodology.

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  • No. Per capita debt is not a good indicator of financial condition, especially when compared to other Villages. There are many variables to consider when comparing Garden City to other municipalities, for example, size/number of residents, budget, full value of properties, tax base, condition of facilities, whether or not a municipality has a Water Fund, etc. The Village of Garden City has many facilities and a Water Fund that accounts for most of the Village debt.

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  • Ballparks are common practice in the construction industry. They provide preliminary estimates and serve as a guideline for project costs. Once a specific project is chosen, a detailed plan will be developed, outlining the exact specifications and costs involved. The Westerman Report was used and crossed referenced with architects and construction professionals to include missing elements.

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  • The market value is based on Village assessment roll. The tax increase is based on the market value of a home at the upper end of the range.

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  • As the future of St. Paul’s continues to be a topic of significant importance, the Board of Trustees has undertaken a series of strategic steps to gauge public sentiment and outline potential plans for the use of the Main Building. Here is a detailed look at what has already been accomplished and the next steps in this vital project.

    Step One: Opinion Poll Reflects Public Sentiment

    The first step in this process was an opinion poll conducted in October 2023 by the then sitting Board of Trustees designed to better understand public sentiment. This opinion poll had two options to choose from – either “part or all preservation” of the St. Paul’s Main Building or demolition. The results were clear: 61 percent of the Village residents voted in favor of preserving “part or all” of the building, demonstrating a strong community preference for its preservation.

    Step Two: Formation of the St Paul’s Advisory Committee

    Following the poll, former Mayor Mary Carter Flanagan appointed a St. Paul’s Advisory Committee that included five non-Trustee residents. This committee embarked on months of research and put forward the idea of a Community Center for consideration. In March 2024, the BOT hired BCI, a recreational planning company, to conduct comprehensive research on two crucial matters: a full needs assessment of the Village’s Recreation and Parks Department and a detailed plan for the use of the St. Paul’s building.

    Step Three: Surveys to Shape Future Plans

    BCI collaborated closely with the 2024-2025 BOT to develop two surveys. The first survey, focusing on recreation and parks, was completed in the early summer of 2024 and those results were shared with the BOT and residents. The second survey, which addresses the future of the St. Paul’s Main Building, was mailed to every household in the Village in April 2025. Once the survey closes, the results will be tabulated and analyzed. (This process could take up to two months.) Once the BOT receives the survey analysis from BCI, we’ll study and share it with all residents. Additionally, the BOT will provide the analysis with the new St. Paul’s Advisory Committee so it can incorporate the findings/information into their final report, which will also be shared with the public. After incorporating the survey analysis, we would expect the Committee report to be published approximately six to eight weeks later.

    Step Four: Presentation and Open Discussions

    The BOT will present its findings and recommendations to the residents, ensuring transparency and thorough understanding. To facilitate this, open discussions will be held at Board meetings, and Town Hall meetings will also be convened. These forums will allow residents to probe the recommendations, ask questions and become fully informed of the conclusions and plans. It is crucial to note that at this stage, the BOT will not have made any commitment to allocate or approve funds for the project. This decision will come later in the process when a Village-wide vote on potential financing options and the necessary funds to undertake the projects at St. Paul’s will be held.

    Step Five: Next Steps Post-Survey

    The subsequent steps in this process will hinge on the survey outcomes, the Advisory Committee’s report, the BOT’s analysis and resident comments. Generally, the next steps include hiring architectural, engineering, and other necessary firms to design a project for the building and the activities and programs the majority of residents wish to see in St. Paul’s Community Center. Following this, the project will be put out to bid to several qualified general contractors under the control of the architects and the Heads of the appropriate Village Departments. Only after all these chores and duties are completed and a budget developed would the Board go to the public for a vote on a bond or the best financial vehicle we can obtain “to put a shovel in the ground” at St. Paul’s. We will always do what is in the best interest of the Village, long-term. We will continue to provide you with as much information as possible via social media, the Garden City News and other forms of communication.

    In summary, these steps outline a comprehensive, inclusive, and transparent approach to the future of St. Paul’s, ensuring that every resident has a voice in the process and that the final project garners widespread community support.

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  • Based on the Parkland designation of the St. Paul’s Property, the following uses are NOT PERMITTED for the St. Paul’s Property: APARTMENTS/CO-OPS; ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY; COMMERCIAL RENTAL SPACE; HOTEL; HOUSING; MEDICAL FACILITY; PRIVATE USE; BUSINESSES; SHARED RESPONSIBILITY; SCHOOLS. 

    “Permitted Parkland Uses” for properties designated as Parkland are not defined by statute but have been developed over time by court decisions. The court developed approach to appropriate Parkland uses focuses on recreation and accompanying uses that enhance the enjoyment of recreational use.

    Village Counsel has advised that “Permitted Parkland Uses” include: SPORTS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, COMMUNITY EVENT AND MEETING SPACE, ROOMS FOR MUSIC, DANCE AND ART PROGRAMS, A THEATER, AND ASSOCIATED CONCESSIONS AND OFFICES.

    Village Counsel cautions that any proposed use would need to be evaluated for its validity as a park purpose.

    To understand the history of the restrictions on the St. Paul’s property, visit this page.

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  • It was in a Special Election held February 2, 1993 that residents voted overwhelmingly in favor of a bond resolution to purchase the St. Paul’s School Property. (2,929 residents voted – 2,582 voted yes and 347 voted no)

    Four years later on March 13, 1997, three Garden City Property Owners’ Associations (Central, West and Estates) invited all residents to vote in a public opinion survey on two questions:

    1. Should the Village lease the St. Paul’s Building for a commercial assisted living facility? 2,372 residents voted on this question with results split nearly evenly - 1,178 voted yes and 1,194 voted no.

    2. Should the Village maintain the St. Paul's Building for future alternative use? 2,118 residents voted on this question with 59% (1,247) voting yes and 41% (871) voting no.

    Over seven years later, in May 2004, a public opinion survey was authored by a committee with representatives from each of the four Village Property Owners’ Associations. Adelphi University staff volunteered to assist with the survey and the report is attached. The report noted that when respondents were forced to choose one option, 40% were in favor of using the building for private use as residential condominiums or an assisted living facility, 25% were in favor of demolition, and threshold use and stabilization received the least support (7% and 4% respectively).

    On December 2, 2008, two Property Owners’ Associations held a Village-wide opinion poll with three options for residents. 5,020 residents voted with 45.4% (2,272) in favor of demolition, 37.1% (1,875) in favor of Mothballing the Main Building, and 17.5% (873) in favor of approving a development agreement with Avalon Bay.

    On April 27, 2011, residents were invited to vote on a bond resolution to fund demolition ($3.75 Million), and of the 4,411 residents who voted, 75% (3,290) voted no and 25% (1,121) voted yes.

    In September 2013, a Needs Assessment Survey was done by the Village Recreation Department.

    In October 2023, 4,339 residents participated in a public opinion poll: 2,635 chose Option 1 (partial or full preservation) while 1,704 chose Option 2 (demolition)

    Public Opinion Poll SAMPLE ballot

    Following the October 21, 2023 St. Paul's public opinion poll, the Garden City News conducted its own poll, asking readers: Now that the voters have chosen to preserve St. Paul's, should the full building be preserved or just the facade? These are the results:

    Facade, with a new building behind it (67%, 56 Votes)

    Full building (33%, 27 Votes)

    Total Voters: 83
    Start Date: October 21, 2023 @ 9:01 pm
    End Date: November 3, 2023 @ 12:00 am

    The History of St. Paul’s 1993 To Date tab provides some background information on these different votes, polls and surveys.

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  • Village Counsel advised the Board of Trustees to not use the term “referendum” or the term “vote.” This advice is based on case law stating that a Village Board may not cede its governance responsibilities to a public vote. While the Village Board cannot be bound by this poll, the opinion of the residents is very important to the Board.

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  • Interviewed key stakeholders in town to make sure everyone has a voice when it comes to the future of St. Paul’s and all these voices participate in the upcoming outreach.

    Identified and started interviewing companies to assess our community needs and survey residents.

    Visited seven outstanding Community Centers in the tri-state area and learned how much these centers enrich the lives of residents and bring multiple generations of people together.

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  • Engage consultant to assess needs and survey the community to learn:
    » What residents want.
    » What parts of the building residents treasure most.
    » What residents are willing to pay to preserve part or all of the building.

    Present to the public what we learned about how community centers enrich the lives of residents and what programs work best.

    With this important data, we can start the creative path towards a reimagined St. Paul’s. Along the way we will continue to share the possibilities and the costs so residents are fully informed and can vote on the bond referendum to make the project a reality.

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  • It is estimated that a $60.4 million project would cost you $1,186.20 per year for 15 years for a total of $17,793.00 using traditional financing. If 30 year financing were allowed and the Board of Trustees chose this option, the estimated cost to you would be $899.10 per year for 30 years for a total of $26,973.00.

    It is estimated that a $100 million project would cost you $1,797.30 per year for 15 years for a total of $26,959.50 using traditional financing. If 30 year financing were allowed and the Board of Trustees chose this option, the estimated cost to you would be $1,322.10 per year for 30 years for a total of $39,663.00.

    These tax increases are in addition to the customary increases in taxes we have experienced historically.

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  •  The cost to you depends what you pay in Village taxes, which you can find on your annual tax bill.

    tax bill


    To find the cost to you of a $60.4 Million project, multiply your annual Village tax bill by 13.18% to learn  what it is estimated to cost extra per year for 15 years. If 30 year financing could be done and was chosen by the Board of Trustees, multiply your annual tax bill by 9.99% to learn what it is estimated to cost you per year for 30 years. 

    To find the cost to you of a $100 Million project, multiply your annual Village tax bill by 19.97% to learn what it is estimated to cost extra per year for 15 years. If 30 year financing could be done and was chosen by the Board of Trustees, multiply your annual tax bill by 14.69% to learn what it is estimated to cost you per year for 30 years.

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  • Some residents have raised questions about the impact on surrounding playing fields during a St. Paul’s project, particularly if there is a demolition project. Mr. Lloyd Westerman of Westerman Construction explained to residents at the October 3rd information session how both asbestos and lead would be handled in any proposed project, whether it is a restoration project or a demolition project (11 minute 20 second mark). He provided in his presentation links for two New York State websites for residents to visit for further information on asbestos and lead and the standard processes in place to ensure safety. Mr. Westerman also shared his experience with a recent demolition project done by his firm of a building adjacent to a branch of the NYC Public Library and across the street from a park. Based on the construction practices, he explained that the work was done in a way that avoided any shut down of the library branch where children were attending programs and any impact on the nearby park. Mr. Westerman also added that demolition can be done in the winter. In response to a question at the end of the presentation (1 hr. 20 minute mark), Mr. Westerman confirmed that he budgeted that proper procedures would be followed as to not impact areas outside the fence surrounding the building.

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  • In his presentation on October 3, Lloyd Westerman described the present condition of the building along with pictures to help illustrate those conditions. Mr. Westerman refers to the Thornton Thomasetti report for detailed information on the technical condition of the building.  As part of his presentation, Mr. Westerman showed pictures of areas which show what he described as typical conditions in the building, and he also showed areas he described as severely decayed with floors collapsed. He estimated in response to a question at the 1 hr. 29 minute mark that the condition of severe decay with floors collapsing is in approximately 20 percent of the building.

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  • Graph showing St. Paul's expenditures for the last 10 years.

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  • The Village has undertaken numerous steps to assess the potential environmental impact associated with the St. Paul’s project and the Board of Trustees will perform additional environmental review before it approves any of the alternatives being considered.

    Between 2009 and 2011, the Village commissioned the preparation of environmental impact statement (“EIS”) when demolition was being considered. That EIS assessed potential impacts to environmental resources such as open space, historical and archeological resources, aesthetic resources, public health and safety, and community character. The EIS also assessed the potential impact from hazardous materials, such as asbestos containing material (“ACM”) and lead-based paint (“LBP”), that would be encountered during construction activity. The EIS also assessed mitigation measures that could be implemented to reduce environmental impacts. A copy of the Draft EIS can be found here and a copy of the Final EIS can be found here.

    Additionally, in 2019 the Village commissioned an assessment of impacts to cultural resources associated with the potential adaptive reuse of the building. The cultural resource due diligence memo summarizing that assessment can be found here. In July 2019 a Phase I Environmental Site Assessment (“ESA”) was prepared on behalf of the Village to evaluate whether hazardous substances may be present at the St. Paul’s property. That Phase I ESA can be found here. The Board of Trustees encourages residents to review the documents that detail the environmental assessments that have been completed to date.

    Before the Board of Trustees makes a final decision with respect to the options being considered for St. Paul’s, it will comply with the State Environmental Quality Review Act (“SEQRA”). The SEQRA review will require an evaluation of the potential environmental impacts resulting from the St. Paul’s project. That SEQRA review may require the preparation of a new EIS or Supplemental EIS, and residents will have an opportunity to participate in that process.

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  • The Village is working with an expert who has come highly recommended and advises as follows: “[L]eaving them where they are is problematic. The level of care they can receive in-situ is not enough intervention for where the windows currently, “are” condition wise.”

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  • It is estimated that a $60.4 million project would cost you $1,186.20 per year for 15 years for a total of $17,793.00 using traditional financing. If 30 year financing were allowed and the Board of Trustees chose this option, the estimated cost to you would be $899.10 per year for 30 years for a total of $26,973.00.

    It is estimated that a $100 million project would cost you $1,797.30 per year for 15 years for a total of $26,959.50 using traditional financing. If 30 year financing were allowed and the Board of Trustees chose this option, the estimated cost to you would be $1,322.10 per year for 30 years for a total of $39,663.00.

    These tax increases are in addition to the customary increases in taxes we have experienced historically.

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  • In his presentation on October 3, Lloyd Westerman described the present condition of the building along with pictures to help illustrate those conditions. Mr. Westerman refers to the Thornton Thomasetti report for detailed information on the technical condition of the building.  As part of his presentation, Mr. Westerman showed pictures of areas which show what he described as typical conditions in the building, and he also showed areas he described as severely decayed with floors collapsed. He estimated in response to a question at the 1 hr. 29 minute mark that the condition of severe decay with floors collapsing is in approximately 20 percent of the building.

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  • It was in a Special Election held February 2, 1993 that residents voted overwhelmingly in favor of a bond resolution to purchase the St. Paul’s School Property. (2,929 residents voted – 2,582 voted yes and 347 voted no)

    Four years later on March 13, 1997, three Garden City Property Owners’ Associations (Central, West and Estates) invited all residents to vote in a public opinion survey on two questions:

    1. Should the Village lease the St. Paul’s Building for a commercial assisted living facility? 2,372 residents voted on this question with results split nearly evenly - 1,178 voted yes and 1,194 voted no.

    2. Should the Village maintain the St. Paul's Building for future alternative use? 2,118 residents voted on this question with 59% (1,247) voting yes and 41% (871) voting no.

    Over seven years later, in May 2004, a public opinion survey was authored by a committee with representatives from each of the four Village Property Owners’ Associations. Adelphi University staff volunteered to assist with the survey and the report is attached. The report noted that when respondents were forced to choose one option, 40% were in favor of using the building for private use as residential condominiums or an assisted living facility, 25% were in favor of demolition, and threshold use and stabilization received the least support (7% and 4% respectively).

    On December 2, 2008, two Property Owners’ Associations held a Village-wide opinion poll with three options for residents. 5,020 residents voted with 45.4% (2,272) in favor of demolition, 37.1% (1,875) in favor of Mothballing the Main Building, and 17.5% (873) in favor of approving a development agreement with Avalon Bay.

    On April 27, 2011, residents were invited to vote on a bond resolution to fund demolition ($3.75 Million), and of the 4,411 residents who voted, 75% (3,290) voted no and 25% (1,121) voted yes.

    In September 2013, a Needs Assessment Survey was done by the Village Recreation Department.

    In October 2023, 4,339 residents participated in a public opinion poll: 2,635 chose Option 1 (partial or full preservation) while 1,704 chose Option 2 (demolition)

    Public Opinion Poll SAMPLE ballot

    Following the October 21, 2023 St. Paul's public opinion poll, the Garden City News conducted its own poll, asking readers: Now that the voters have chosen to preserve St. Paul's, should the full building be preserved or just the facade? These are the results:

    Facade, with a new building behind it (67%, 56 Votes)

    Full building (33%, 27 Votes)

    Total Voters: 83
    Start Date: October 21, 2023 @ 9:01 pm
    End Date: November 3, 2023 @ 12:00 am

    The History of St. Paul’s 1993 To Date tab provides some background information on these different votes, polls and surveys.

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  • Village Counsel advised the Board of Trustees to not use the term “referendum” or the term “vote.” This advice is based on case law stating that a Village Board may not cede its governance responsibilities to a public vote. While the Village Board cannot be bound by this poll, the opinion of the residents is very important to the Board.

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  • Some residents have raised questions about the impact on surrounding playing fields during a St. Paul’s project, particularly if there is a demolition project. Mr. Lloyd Westerman of Westerman Construction explained to residents at the October 3rd information session how both asbestos and lead would be handled in any proposed project, whether it is a restoration project or a demolition project (11 minute 20 second mark). He provided in his presentation links for two New York State websites for residents to visit for further information on asbestos and lead and the standard processes in place to ensure safety. Mr. Westerman also shared his experience with a recent demolition project done by his firm of a building adjacent to a branch of the NYC Public Library and across the street from a park. Based on the construction practices, he explained that the work was done in a way that avoided any shut down of the library branch where children were attending programs and any impact on the nearby park. Mr. Westerman also added that demolition can be done in the winter. In response to a question at the end of the presentation (1 hr. 20 minute mark), Mr. Westerman confirmed that he budgeted that proper procedures would be followed as to not impact areas outside the fence surrounding the building.

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  • The Village has undertaken numerous steps to assess the potential environmental impact associated with the St. Paul’s project and the Board of Trustees will perform additional environmental review before it approves any of the alternatives being considered.

    Between 2009 and 2011, the Village commissioned the preparation of environmental impact statement (“EIS”) when demolition was being considered. That EIS assessed potential impacts to environmental resources such as open space, historical and archeological resources, aesthetic resources, public health and safety, and community character. The EIS also assessed the potential impact from hazardous materials, such as asbestos containing material (“ACM”) and lead-based paint (“LBP”), that would be encountered during construction activity. The EIS also assessed mitigation measures that could be implemented to reduce environmental impacts. A copy of the Draft EIS can be found here and a copy of the Final EIS can be found here.

    Additionally, in 2019 the Village commissioned an assessment of impacts to cultural resources associated with the potential adaptive reuse of the building. The cultural resource due diligence memo summarizing that assessment can be found here. In July 2019 a Phase I Environmental Site Assessment (“ESA”) was prepared on behalf of the Village to evaluate whether hazardous substances may be present at the St. Paul’s property. That Phase I ESA can be found here. The Board of Trustees encourages residents to review the documents that detail the environmental assessments that have been completed to date.

    Before the Board of Trustees makes a final decision with respect to the options being considered for St. Paul’s, it will comply with the State Environmental Quality Review Act (“SEQRA”). The SEQRA review will require an evaluation of the potential environmental impacts resulting from the St. Paul’s project. That SEQRA review may require the preparation of a new EIS or Supplemental EIS, and residents will have an opportunity to participate in that process.

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  • Based on the Parkland designation of the St. Paul’s Property, the following uses are NOT PERMITTED for the St. Paul’s Property: APARTMENTS/CO-OPS; ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY; COMMERCIAL RENTAL SPACE; HOTEL; HOUSING; MEDICAL FACILITY; PRIVATE USE; BUSINESSES; SHARED RESPONSIBILITY; SCHOOLS. 

    “Permitted Parkland Uses” for properties designated as Parkland are not defined by statute but have been developed over time by court decisions. The court developed approach to appropriate Parkland uses focuses on recreation and accompanying uses that enhance the enjoyment of recreational use.

    Village Counsel has advised that “Permitted Parkland Uses” include: SPORTS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, COMMUNITY EVENT AND MEETING SPACE, ROOMS FOR MUSIC, DANCE AND ART PROGRAMS, A THEATER, AND ASSOCIATED CONCESSIONS AND OFFICES.

    Village Counsel cautions that any proposed use would need to be evaluated for its validity as a park purpose.

    To understand the history of the restrictions on the St. Paul’s property, visit this page.

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